The case is of proprietary dimension and is not simply a necked-down.50 BMG. Known as much for its dependability as its versatility, the Model 99 has unfailing accuracy you can rely on. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 50 BMG vs 416 Barrett and 408 Chey Tac. But its expensive to run. There's nothing like sending an 800 grain solid into whatever hard target one decides to use for practice. Figure a 10 round magazine will run you 50 bucks, give or take depending upon where you get it and what you choose) and that could go in a few seconds. While the.416 bullets are moving right along, pressures are not maxed out. You cannot beat 50 BMG for a toy gun. Good Luck, Good Shooting - Ron - .50 bmg / .460 steyr / .416 barrett We currently offer loaded ammunition, formed cases and CVLD & Traditional projectiles for 50 BMG, 460 Steyr & .416 Barrett. I think the .50 BMG really became accepted as a sniper cartridge just because it was the biggest common cartridge that was still legal for civilians. The Barrett 99A1 has a very heavy 32" barrel and the 82A1 has a thinner 29" barrel so they both kick about equally. Thread starter ABC1000; Start date Mar 9, 2020; Mar 9, 2020 #1 ABC1000 Active member. Only thing is I cant decide between the 416 Barrett or the 50cal. The.416 Barrett is, in theory, more accurate than the.50 BMG because the round is of higher velocity and lower caliber (making it more aerodynamic). ARCHIVED; Armory » 50 Cal. Ive always wanted to do a .50 BMG-Improved in a bolt rifle. The performance is highly impressive, the standard bullet remaining supersonic to more than 2,250m. Haha I … You are using an out of date browser. Cases are expensive, as are the primers. Barrett Ammo: .416 and 50 BMG in stock. 50 BMG if you don't plan on loading for it. I would own a .50 if I could down here in CA and many have gone the DTC route but I will just stay with the .416. By contrast, the .416 Barrett in the 82A1 shakes your whole body. I own a M99 in .416 and while some may argue "its not very accurate" most likely have never owned one and they can be quite accurate with hand-loaded 395gr bullets. [NOTE: Those are single shot action prices since BAT does not currently build a CT- or BMG-capable repeater. The 99A1 Barrett held the record for for accuacy for many years but I think the McMillian took that away, I think? The use of a lighter, narrower bullet results in a significantly higher muzzle velocity and superior ballistic performance to the .50 BMG, and the .416 Barrett is claimed to retain more energy than the .50 BMG at distances over 1000 yards (914.40 meters). anti-aircraft guns. RL-50 is a very good choice to use in the 416 Barrett. This was developed recently by the famous maker of .50 cal rifles, reportedly in irritation at a Californian decision to ban .50 cal weapons. Report by Derek Rodgers Cartridge Choice — I chose a standard .416 Barrett cartridge as it allows for bullets up to and slightly exceeding 550 grains. Speaking of optics, the hooded display on top of the 98B is a Barrett Optical Ranging System (BORS). If you do get a .416, I could always buy the empties off of you. I have a Barrett .416 Model 99 bolt action rifle. I would like to finally get serious at 1000 yards with a serious gun and cartridge. Its not a rifle to run around with and that's for sure. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Much more of a precision round. I use to see several 50's at the ranges several years ago but I have not seen one in the past few years at any of the local ranges. .416 Barrett . As you might imagine, ArmaLite’s new high-precision rifle is “just like the AR-50A1, but chambered and re-barreled to accept the .416 Barrett cartridge.” About AR15.COM. The 50 is not allowed at a lot of ranges but I would still rather have the 50 than the 416. Sniper’s Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Best big bore cartridge and platform to choose? The .416 Barrett has the same case head dimensions as the .50 BMG, so with the exception of the barrel, almost every part of the rifle is the same. Barrett Ammo: .416 and 50 BMG in stock. The .416 Barrett or 10.6×83mm centerfire rifle cartridge is a proprietary bottlenecked centrefire rifle cartridge designed in 2005. Derek Rodgers Campaigns a .416 Barrett. If it was me, I would get the 50, don't let people fool you the m107 will shoot 1.25-1.5 MOA with good ammo and an operator who knows how she likes it. That would put me in an M107 chambered in .50. Who knows how long it'll be before the govt bans them anyway. The price is $3,000. Mr Kirby Allen does a .50BMG-Imp that will send 750gr AMAX`s at 3000 fps give or take depending on barrel length. 50 BMG all the way. It is an alternative to the .50 BMG in long-range high-power rifles. Now, as the M82 is a semi-auto, it will be much cheaper to throw factory loaded ball .50 down range than it would be to throw factory .416 down range. I am having a good time with pulled 647 gr. US-869, WC-870, WC-872 powders are military powders designed around aircraft mounted versions of 20mm & 50 BMG cal. While this video shows .50 BMG cases being loaded, the principles are the same for loading the .416 Barrett used by both Brantley and Phillips. Unlike the 7.62x51mm (left) and the.50 BMG (right), the.416 Barrett (center) was designed from the start as a long-range, precision round and outperforms nearly every cartridge in its class. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 50 BMG vs 416 Barrett and 408 Chey Tac. It may not display this or other websites correctly. 375 CT, 408 CT, 416 Barrett and 50 BMG. I live on a range, and my entire freetime revolves around reloading and range practice from the bench. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 50 BMG vs 416 Barrett and 408 Chey Tac. +1 for the .50. 375 or 408 is a much better round. I had a chance to shoot the Barrett semi auto model side by side with a suppressed AW50. I do reload so I don`t shoot factory ammo in any of my custom rifles. Californians dreamin’ of an AR-50 BMG have another option: ArmaLite’s AR-50A1 .416 Barrett. It would depend on how much you plan on shooting it. With ball ammunition being readily available and relatively inexpensive the .50 is the winner. If you're dead set on the '82, .50 is the clear choice. As you might imagine, ArmaLite’s new high-precision rifle is “just like the AR-50A1, but chambered and re-barreled to accept the .416 Barrett cartridge.” Here is Derek’s full report on his new .416 Barrett rifle. Featuring a receiver CNC-machined from a single piece of 4130 tubing, […] It was designed in response to a request for a medium/heavy rifle cartridge combination that was issued from Naval Surface Warfare Center Crane Division in late 2004. Californians dreamin’ of an AR-50 BMG have another option: ArmaLite’s AR-50A1 .416 Barrett. Joined Dec 27, 2017 Messages 101 Reaction score 29 Points 28. i haven't really found anything different between the 2 rounds, other than a few minor details that can be worked around with different loads. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Like the previous offerings just covered, the 338 Lapua is a military generated round that has been developed by the Fins to replace the 50 BMG, 416 Barrett, and the 408 Chey Tac as … RCBS is a leading manufacturer of ammunition reloading equipment for rifles and pistols, offering reloading equipment throughout the world. It is very accurate. But i have found that .408 Chey-Tac and .416 Barrett are the 2 best long range "tactical" rounds out there followed by the .50 BMG. "And there is still room to grow in the shortened case," Barrett added. Barrett claims this cartridge is capable of propelling a 400-grain solid brass boattail spitzer bullet out of the 32 inch (810mm) barrel of a Barrett M99 rifle at 990 m/s (3250 ft/s), giving it a ballistic coefficient between .943 a… Go for it. "Most cartridges, like the 5.56mm, start out with light bullets and get heavier as the ranges get longer," Barrett said. The .416 Barrett is, in theory, more accurate than the .50 BMG because the round is of higher velocity and lower caliber (making it more aerodynamic). Thread starter ABC1000; Start date Mar 9, 2020; Mar 9, 2020 #1 ABC1000 Active member. That said, I'd favor many other cartridges over a 416 for a precision rig - like the .375 CT for example. The basis of this round is the .50 BMG case, which is shortened and necked down. That would be a monster with the right loads and should match or even best the hottest/slickest .375CT loads. I thought I was purchasing a 50BMG, now the other side of me wants a 416 Barrett chambering. Can I shoot a “bore rider” bullet in my.50 BMG or.416 Barrett rifle? We don’t have any ballistic information cartridge for this caliber yet, but we will share that with you when we get that data back from our customer. Also, IF you have not already invested in an action (conventional style), CT-class are quite a bit less than 50 BMG (required for 416 Barrett) - BAT lists their CT at $1250 vs $2300 for the EX 2.0. 82's are not designed to be an "ultra accurate" platform so if you are just having fun and shooting M.O.M (minute of man) they are fun to shoot. It really does bridge the gap between the .375 variants and a 50 BMG. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. It fires a .416 diameter bullet. Our new match grade 416 ammunition is loaded with a 452 gr MTAC Cutting Edge Bullet, which has a much higher ballistic coefficient than our previous bullet. So that's another thing to consider when buying the rifle. I have the 82A1 in 50 cal and from what I understand you can not beat the 750 gr A-Max with its b.c. Call (570) 368-3920 or visit our web site for all of your long range shooting needs. Shown above is our Remanufactured .50 BMG MATCH ammunition loaded with our 695grn CVLD (Coated Very … I would lean towards a bolt gun for the .416. As for the barrel life issue, the.50 BMG is already overbore, now wildcat it down to.416. It is a highly specialized, rimless, bottlenecked, centerfire cartridge that came from the.400 Taylor Magnum. ARCHIVED; Armory » 50 Cal. Joined Dec 27, 2017 Messages 101 Reaction score 29 Points 28. About AR15.COM. Shown above is our Remanufactured .50 BMG MATCH ammunition loaded with our 695grn CVLD (Coated Very Low Drag) mono-metal CNC projectiles. JavaScript is disabled. Find someone who has both and shoot them. Ammo is more readily available and "cheaper". There are no good long range 416 bullets available at this time. Then there is the availability of API, AP and Mk217. On ammo that is only going to be fired 1 time & cutting edge accuracy is not a key factor. There are no good long range 416 bullets available at this time. It is a lot of fun to shoot and can be a lot cheaper because you can use LC or WCC brass properly prepared. You will get "don't get this get that instead replies" all day but if you want an 82 you just have 2 options. I do not think the 50cal is any less accurate than the 416 especially if you use A-Max or Match ammo. A ballistic coefficient equal to the highest of 50BMG bullets, and flight times which are less. Nothin' says lovin' like "hand me the fiddy"! See ballistic chart below. 50 BMG Rifles Compared August 14, 2019 February 3, 2017 Demolition Ranch gives us a look at his 50 BMG rifles, including the Serbu BFG-50A, Barrett M82A1, and Barrett … The.416 Barrett model is available with a 32″ barrel. .50 bmg / .460 steyr / .416 barrett We currently offer loaded ammunition, formed cases and CVLD & Traditional projectiles for 50 BMG, 460 Steyr & .416 Barrett. http://www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/10,57-mm/416-Barret.htm. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. As you want an M82, I would go with the .50 for a few reasons. Barrett has now introduced a conversion kit which will enable owners of the .50 BMG M82s and M107s to fire .416 Barrett. While this video shows .50 BMG cases being loaded, the principles are the same for loading the .416 Barrett used by both Brantley and Phillips. The case length is 3.9098”, same as the.50 BMG”, whereas the.416 Barrett’s case length is 3.273” which gives the.416-50 BMG an additional length of 0.6359”. The 416 Barrett seems interesting for the velocity it achieves over the BMG and Cheytac, while staying less than BMG powder loads. The case is a std 50 Cal BMG that has been shortened to about 3.250" long, necked down to take the lathe turned .416 projectiles. The 98B weighs 12.4-13.5 pounds (depending on configuration) and starts at $5039.99 without optics. Just imagine elk hunting at 850 yards, or 1500 yards. It burns 200grns of powder, pushing the 400grn bullet 3300fps. I shoot nearly everyday. You must log in or register to reply here. AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. ^ trespasser and hairball are right. You just can beat 10 rounds of continuos devastation but if you want both you can always buy a separate 416 upper from Barrett.. right:50 BMG center:416 Barrett left: 338 Lapua Super Magnum Has anyone actually fired this caliber? Stick with the 50 unless your a very high level bore shooter and have a place to do 2000 plus yards. And on a similar note, the 375-408 Cheytac seems to be becoming popular as well--it appears for the great 375 bullets now available. 416 Barrett. Another option that would cost more would be to buy an EDM ARMS Windrunner in.50 BMG. Other than being a prisoner in the PRK where you can't own a .50, I cant see owning a 2-3 moa rifle in an expensive, esoteric, and elr oriented caliber like .416. Where I'd become conflicted is barrel length. The .416 Barrett cartridge uses the same bolt face as a .50 BMG. Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Matt304, Jul 15, 2008. Because of all the civilian snipers, the military adopted it? All that being said, ihad to have an m82 to cross it off my bucket list. If money is no object then go for the 416, much more accurate. And obviously, the.416 Barrett. TAKE YOUR BEST SHOT. If I did it all over again, I'd get a .375 Chey Tac. It was designed as a machinegun cartridge however and it has obvious disadvantages as a sniper cartridge. Many, like yourself, buy an M82 just to have it and after the novelty wears out, they don't shoot them very much. M33 ball bullets and amortizing the brass cost over 5 loads (.10) I am shooting at under $2 per round. In any case, I vote a 50 bmg, before they get banned for good by Hussein Obama. Available in both 50 BMG and 416 Barrett, the Model 99 brings new levels of long-range precision shooting. He had a 50 BMG on display at the Boise Idaho gun show where I was also selling my wares. Kingjoey, the answer to that question is yes. However, the drag-to-weight ratios of the respective bullets give the .50 BMG an advantage at ultra-long ranges. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. 375 CT, 408 CT, 416 Barrett and 50 BMG. The 50 BMG has better component availability, factory load options, and cartridge diversity. The Barrett Model 99 precision rifle comes in several caliber variations. He said they also made it in 416 Barrett so I ordered one. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Those CQBs make me want go withdraw a bit from the 401k! Alright guys I'm gonna finally mark off my bucket list owning a M82. The muzzle blast is awesome - recoil is not as bad as you would think. It burns 200grns of powder, pushing the 400grn bullet 3300fps. Due to the success of the Tacilite .50 BMG, Zel Custom Manufacturing has released a new line of complete upper assemblies that allow a user to quickly convert AR-15 rifles into a precision single-shot, bolt-action rifle, chambered in either .50 BMG or .416 Barrett. Any suggestions either way? However, the drag-to-weight ratios of the respective bullets give the.50 BMG an advantage at ultra-long ranges. Barrett .50 and DTI in .375 CT. The performance is highly impressive, the standard bullet remaining supersonic to more than 2,250m. The .416 Barrett is a caliber that even many firearms enthusiasts haven't heard of. Here was your opportunity to shoot our .416 Barrett Long Range Semi-automatic Sniper Rifle. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. I have had my M82 (50BMG) for a few years now. About AR15.COM. Best big bore cartridge and platform to choose? AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. With Lapua now making brass for .50BMG, thats the way Id go for a ELR rifle. Big cases need big presses! 416 cal, 400 grains at 3250FPS sounds like good numbers to my ears. The case is of proprietary dimension and is not simply a necked-down .50 BMG. RCBS is a leading manufacturer of ammunition reloading equipment for rifles and pistols, offering reloading equipment throughout the world. The 408 is slightly heavier by 19 grains, 250 ft/s slower. Cases are expensive, as are the primers. Since it's a m82, I would go with the raw power of a 50. The 416 Barrett is limited on only that Barrett makes brass and unless that changes I will never own one. With Lapua now making brass the golden 1 MOA May be here. It is a direct competitor to the.338 Lapua Magnum and.50 BMG long range cartridges. Call (570) 368-3920 or visit our web site for all of your long range shooting needs. Ronnie and team did a great job designing this thing. That also caught my attention. The price is $3,000. There you go. The case is a std 50 Cal BMG that has been shortened to about 3.250" long, necked down to take the lathe turned .416 projectiles. This works well in a Barrett M99. The basis of this round is the .50 BMG case, which is shortened and necked down. I rarely shoot my m82 anymore after getting the DT HTI .375/.50 combo. Founded by Frank Galli in 2014, Sniper’s Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to it’s users in one location. It's also way, way lighter weight than the Barrett. I believe the DTI would be my pick. 416 Barrett vs 408 Chey Tac The 416 Barrett is perhaps the best civilian legal cartridge ever made. Maybe get both. Big cases need big presses! of 1.005. Ball is cheap considering, J, I am with Jason on this 416 in a Barrett semi would not be my pick. The Barrett is very, very cool but from a practical use standpoint the Desert Tac is pretty hard to beat. This was developed recently by the famous maker of .50 cal rifles, reportedly in irritation at a Californian decision to ban .50 cal weapons. ARCHIVED; Armory » 50 Cal. AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. The.416 Barrett cartridge uses the same bolt face as a.50 BMG. The .375ct is everything you've read about, and the .50 conversion is much more accurate, but more unpleasant to fire, than the m82. It fires a.416 diameter bullet. The 416 Barrett has alot shorter barrel life compared to the 408 and the 50BMG. Ahh....M82 recoil is better than sex!! This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. .416 Barrett . If you want to experiment with different rounds, then go with the 50 CAL.. Just my two cents worth.
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